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Sammyboy
Here's something which should inspire all England fans.

Today I tried to remember who finished the last World Cup in 2002 when we lost to Brazil, I had to Google it in the end because I couldn't remember most of them.

Seaman
Mills
Ferdinand
Campbell
A. Cole
Beckham

Butt
Scholes
Sinclair
Owen
Heskey

Now compare that with the team likely to start on Saturday

Robinson
Neville
Ferdinand
Terry
A. Cole
Beckham

Lampard
Gerrard
J. Cole
Owen
Crouch

Only 4 played in both (which I've highlighted) - and look at the first one! Mills! Sinclair! Butt! Heskey! A load of rejects from Birmingham and Man City. We've got such an improved team this year. And thats without Rooney!

Let the mayhem (and posting!) commence.
TheWoz
too right...

we might actually have a chance this time...


are we planning on watching the england game together anywhere?

i almost feel the excuse for a hawkins/riley house cooling bbq/leaving party/england game on saturday...

any comments?
jonnyploy
I suggested almost the same thing via email to Sammyboy not 1 hour ago. Have you seen the forecast for Saturday as well? 28 degrees apparently. Booya!
Sammyboy
Lets do it.

Also: Baddiel and Skinner Podcasts via the Times. Genius.

Baddiel and Skinner

or iTunes obviously
TheWoz
their comments on crouch are genius
jonnyploy
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We've got such an improved team this year. And thats without Rooney!

True indeed.

In particular, Crouch looks like some sort of footballing demi-god in comparison to Emile 'I like falling over' Heskey.
Sammyboy
So what's the plan for Saturday then?
jonnyploy
I have to be in Peterborough at 11am and I'm not sure how long I'll be so it looks like I could well be late for the match. However, I shall do my best not to miss too much. I think, subject to approval from the missus, Ween is sorting out something at his place. BBQ-age likely to be involved.
TheWoz
morning peeps!

so yeah... Saturday is a go-er.

very relaxed tactics tho... basically turn up when ever you feel like it on saturday, i'll sort some kind of food out, and we can sit and watch the world cup all day!

any one is invited, we're going to one of em's mates birthdays in st albans on saturday night and i get the impression that anyone is welcome to that too.

let me know your thoughts.
jonnyploy
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let me know your thoughts.

My thoughts:

Flang, spick, meow, bosh. Mmm...houmous.
jonnyploy
So, I guess everyone's agreed then.

Sven shouldn't have taken Owen off, and shouldn't have even taken Hargreaves, let alone brought him on. Now that Defoe has gone home and Walcott has picked up a calf injury England's strikers read as follows:

Owen: still not up to full pace.

Rooney: doctors say he shouldn't play.

Walcott: now injured and no one has ever seen him kick a ball.

Crouch: very very tall, bad dancer.

It's in the bag.
Sammyboy
Never mind all that rubbish, the Baddiel and Skinner podcasts will get me through it. It's genius the way they keep banging on about the war. Only they could get away with it. Also its a lot better than 'Baddiel and Skinner Unplanned' which I always thought was a load of old toss. Probably because it was on ITV.
Loz
yo fools,
what are you're plans for Thursday?, are you able to get to holborn? (sammyboy in particular), I am back working and have wangled to finish work on thursday in time to see the match, 4:30 in time for 5.00 k.o.



govinddhar
I might be a little late on this but someone pointed out this wonderful site to me and the calendar at

http://www.excely.com/world-cup-2006.html?sheet

Does wonderful things like calculates the groups stages etcetera.

Guys honestly - its all about supporting Brazil and Holland.

lalalalalla
govinddhar
The Da Vinci Football Code

Check it - sounds like a old bunch of sheeeeeeeyaaaaaiiiit (ta Noel) but pretty interesting...

AMAZING NUMEROLOGY TO PREDICT THE FIFA WORLD CUP WINNER

Brazil won the world cup in 1994. Before that, they had won this title for the last time in 1970.

If you add up: 1970 + 1994 = 3964

Argentina won the world cup for the last time in 1986.

Before that only in 1978.

And 1978 + 1986 = 3964


Germany, though, won the world cup in 1990.
Before that, Germany won in 1974.

1990 + 1974 = 3964

Wooooooo - spoookay

This could lead us to guess the winner of the World Cup in
2002, since it should be the winner of the 1962 World Cup
(In fact
3964 - 2002 = 1962).

And Brazil won the world cup in 1962!

(And, in fact, Brazil won the 2002 WC)

Who would be the winner of the 2006 world cup?

Let's see, 3964 - 2006 = 1958


And who won in 1958?....

BRAAAAASIIIIIL!

Check it - like literally - on a calculator and all.

Govi *
King
Did we win World Cup '98 then?

I thought it was France...
Loz
hey soccerball fans,

if you want an alternative method of predicting the winner of the World Cup try:

http://www.the-onion-bag.com/100yards.php?restart=1

(sorry don't know how to paste a link)


come on the czech republic!!!, (you'll see!)
jonnyploy
World Cup lookalikes:

This one comes courtesy of Sammyboy:

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Trinidad and Tobago boss Leo Beenhakker

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'Nature Boy' Ric Flair
Sammyboy
I just thought of another one, its not World Cup related but its still football. Also I can't be arsed to find the photos so someone else can do the donkey work.

Marlon Harewood (West Ham) and one of theose alien dudes with the floppy ears from the Fifth Element.

Check it one time select.
jonnyploy
I'll do the honours:

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Mangalore

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Marlon Harewood
jonnyploy
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Crest of the Isle of Man

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Peter Crouch

Jennie
Just to show that some World Cup coverage has reached the US (although I am still forced to watch most of the matches on the Spanish language channel...Viva Argentina!)--Sports Illustrated had a funny column celebrating the English chants.
jonnyploy
Unfortunately, not being a subscriber, I am unable to read the article. Any chance of a transcript?
Jennie
Argh, I thought I got around that. It's long, but here it is:
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To say soccer fans cheer is like saying moles dig or Kennedys drink. They cheer. They chant. They sing. First at the games. Then in the pubs. Then in the jails.

Once, at the Barcelona Olympics in 1992, I was amazed at the way thousands of Swedish fans roared one chant again and again in perfect unison. I went up to a Swede and asked, "What is it you're yelling? Is it something like 'Attack the goal!' or 'Play hard defense!' Or what?"

And this young, blond guy goes, "No, this cheer says, 'We are from Sweden, we have traveled very far, and we are drunk!'"

Since then, I've always gotten the translation. At another international event, upon seeing Slovakian fans jumping up and down and ringing bells, I asked one of them what their cheer meant. And she said, "This is to say, 'He who is not jumping is not Slovak!'"

If you're lucky enough to attend the most watched event in the universe -- the World Cup -- you've got to go to one of England's games. The French make the best wine. The Swiss build the best watches. But the English make up the best chants. In English football, for instance, Blackburn hates Burnley the way tornadoes hate trailers, so the Blackburn fans, 31,000 strong, holler:

  Yer mum's yer dad!
  Yer dad's yer mum!
  Yer inbred, ya Burnley scum!

Which is good, but not as good as this ...

  Away in a manger
  No crib for a bed,
  The little Lord Jesus,
  Looked up and he said,
  We HATE Burnley!

How much better is that than "Dal-las sucks!"

English star Michael Owen is often serenaded by this chant, sung to Guantanamera:

  One Michael Owen!
  There's only one Michael Owen!

Of course, when fellow Brit Andy Goram was rumored to be schizophrenic, fans of opposing teams in the Scottish Premier League chanted:

  Two Andy Gorams!
  There's only two Andy Gorams!

Behavior at matches can get much, much worse than that, though. Some chants can be racist, others politically charged. Germany has taken pains to remind World Cup fans that any Nazi salutes or references are against the law, and the English government asked its fans not to make any cracks about World War II.

Not that it helped. Sopped Brits all over Germany have been raucously singing their ditty about the RAF shooting down 10 German bombers, then nine, then eight and so on. And they will roar, "Two World Wars and one World Cup!" referring to their victory over Germany in the 1966 championship game. And, of course ...

  I'm English 'til I die
  I'm English 'til I die
  We will win the World Cup
  And the Germans will cry!

I wish America had a decent chant. Ours is lamer than Members Only jackets. All we have is that crappy old U-S-A! U-S-A! cheer. A stoned ferret could've thought of that one. It's so bad that for the last World Cup, U.S. Soccer held a contest to pick a new official U.S. stadium chant. Out of 1,000 entries, this was the winner:

  Our legs shall never tire!
  Our hearts will see us through!
  Goals! Goals! Goals!
  For the red, white and blue!

Ugh. Why beat around the bush? Here's my entry:

  We are the Yankees!
  We are not afraid!
  You beat us tonight!
  Thursday, we invade!

That one doesn't make you jump up and down with glee?

Then you are not Slovak.


There you go.
Sammyboy
Oh my God even I didn't realise the Marlon Harewood lookalike would be so funny, you've done well Jonnyboy. The Crouch one was also fantastic, my sides hurt.
jonnyploy
Here are a few football chants that a mate sent me a little while back:


Fulham fans to Sung Ji Park, to the tune of "Lord of the Dance"

"Park, Park, Where ever you may be
You eat dogs in your home country
it could be worse
You could be scouse
Eating rats in your council house"


Leeds fans at Norwich to the tune of The Adams family:-

"Your sister is your mother
Your uncle is your brother
You all f@*k one another
The Norwich family
der der der der clap clap etc"


Toon fans to Boro's JF Hasselbaink:

"You're just a fat Eddie Murphy"


to the tune of craig david - "rewind":

"VAN PER-SIE, WHEN A GIRL SAYS NO - MOLEST HER"
King
The Coruch one is spectacular. And it's good to see appreciation of our fans and their wit spreading even across the pond.

I've always liked:

To the tune of DJ Otze's Classic 'Hey Baby'

"John Arne Risse
Hoooo-ow-ow-ow
Did you score that goal?"

After he scored a goal from last week somewhere

I guess my favourite example of thinking:

"He's here, he's there, he's every-f**king-where.
Frank LeBeouff, Frank LeBeouff."

Which of course was changed the week after he complained about the swearing in a family atmosphere to ;

"He's here, he's there, and we're not allowed to swear.
Frank LeBeouff, Frank LeBeouff."

But my all time favourite, to be sung whilst po-going:

"Woking, Woking,
Boing, Boing.
Woking, Woking,
Boing, Boing
Woking, Woking,
Boing, Boing
Woking, Woking,
Boing, Boing
Woking, Woking,
Boing, Boing
Woking, Woking,
Boing, Boing
Etc."

It's that etc. bit that gets me.
Loz
For Shaun Wright-Phillips:

'Whos got a big fat mum?
Who's got a big fat mum,
Shaun Wright-Phillips, Shaun Wright-Phillips,
You've got a big fat mum!'

For the same tune of 'you're not very good'.

I can't see why that is particularly funny but someone tole me that the Spurs fans sing it to him and it causes much merriment.

Loz
prediction for tonights game:

England 3 - Sweden 2

This will hopefully be the one where they remember that they are not village players, but indeed command substantial wages each week and they are actually allowed to play well in the first portion of games.

Also they should hopefully remember that the ball is allowed to touch the grass in the last third of the pitch.

ah well, maybe I wish for too much!
Sammyboy
Wrong.

It's going to be 1-1, come on we all know it is. It's one of the most predictable games in World football.

Sweden to score first, probably Larsson, us to panic before Rooney scoring to cause widespread national hysteria.

Bring on Ecuador!
Sammyboy
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Wrong.

It's going to be 1-1, come on we all know it is. It's one of the most predictable games in World football.

Well nobody's perfect. It was a draw though and to that end I declare myself victorious.

Owen Hargreaves is my new hero. He's the English/Canadian Edgar Davids.
Loz
On a related topic, what does everyone feel about the England flags on cars and houses etc during the world cup?

my mum and dad have one on a window at their house, and also on the car. On my car I have opted for the small replica kit attached to the back window.

Are we English able to have flags, without feeling like we are about to shoot at some illegals with water cannons or join the local BNP association?

I
DanSon
I think we should not need flags in order to shoot people with water cannons - illegals or otherwise.

This was circulated recently:
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In order to assist other motorists in identifying potentially dangerous drivers, it's now compulsory for anyone with a lower than average IQ and driving ability to display a warning flag.

The flag (comprising of a red cross on a white background) will be attached to the top of at least one door of their vehicle.

For drivers of exceptionally low ability, additional flags are required
King
That flag thing was circulated at least 2, if not 4, years ago.

Doesn't make it untrue but still.
jonnyploy
What's your Brazilian name?

Mine's Nendinho.
Sammyboy
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That flag thing was circulated at least 2, if not 4, years ago.


Yeah, God Dan, get with the program. I mean, Jesus.
King
I believe I issued the programs quite some time ago. Possibly 2 or 4 years ago; you've had quite enough time...
Loz
QUOTE(jonnyploy @ 22-Jun-06, 11:13)



Excellent idea, couldn't get the link to work, but I reckon it's Lozinho

jonnyploy
Link now appears to be broken. Apologies for that - it's quite possible that the number of hits they've had from my office alone was too much for their server to handle.

I'll keep you posted as to whether it gets up and running again.

In the meantime, try reading this.
Sammyboy
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I believe I issued the programs quite some time ago. Possibly 2 or 4 years ago; you've had quite enough time...

Yeah, God Dan, get with the program. I mean, Jesus.
King
Touché

Hmm is that a bit stuck up? Oh wait...

That Link is genius Jonny.
Loz
Idiot of yesterday prizegiving annoucement:

The winner of this prestigious award is Mr Graham Poll of Tring, herts.

Who failed to correctly negotiate the problem of being to count two yellow cards in the World Cup match of Australia v Croatia.

Well done Graham, your safety helmet is in the post!
jonnyploy
I watched that match.

Carnage, pure carnage. Poll just completely lost control in the last ten minutes, there were tackles and cards flying about all over the shop. I think it's safe to say he won't be referreeing the final.
Sammyboy
More World Cup lookalikes...

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Hunchback of Notre Dame

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Franck Ribery
govinddhar
My Brazilian name for Govind Dhar is

Govildo

Obviously less than happy with this result, I went for Govi Star, and the new result...

Govando.

Now that's more like it baby.

Loz
Update:

I have tried the link again and my name is...

Lorandro!


I think it'll grow on me.




and then i'll have to gets some sort of fungal creme to get rid of it
Loz
To whom it may concern:

This saturday, when the team of England United take on the Portuguls, would anyone want to make a journey to my house for a possible bbq and drink and then watch the match?

yours sincerely


Mr. Eric. T Bananaman

43 Acacia Road
King
I got this on e-mail today.
jonnyploy
Harsh.
Sammyboy
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This saturday, when the team of England United take on the Portuguls, would anyone want to make a journey to my house for a possible bbq and drink and then watch the match?

Make it happen!

McManaman for Spurs
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