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jonnyploy
Okay, I'm bored and I seem to have started a conversation that no one is interested in so I'm going to gradually add youtube links to the tracks in my list above to keep myself occupied. Unfortunately this means that they will no longer be purple but I'm sure we'll live.

Bosh on all your nappers.
King
Not true Jonny - I just can't remember any particular song from 2009...
Tart
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Unfortunately this means that they will no longer be purple


Not necessarily so my friend...
King
Ha; OK my favourite albums of 2009 (in the order I think of them until I get round to organising by favouriteness):

1. Kingdom of Rust - Doves
2. Only Revolutions - Biffy Clyro
3. Post Electric Blues - Idlewild
4. Wolfmother - Cosmic Egg
5. Strict Joy - The Swell Season


(Jon, I recommend you check out The Swell Season on Spotify (or something) as they may appeal - very mellow)

I also recommend that everyone check out Kingdom of Rust as I think it is Doves' consistantly best album yet.

jonnyploy
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(Jon, I recommend you check out The Swell Season on Spotify (or something) as they may appeal - very mellow)

I will. I suspect you have already come to a conclusion about the albums on my list and probably feel a bit 'meh' about all of them, so I won't single out any in particular. From the singles list however I will highlight the Polly Scattergood and Frank Turner tracks as the ones which are most likely to tickle you.
King
Well sort of - I've certainly not into Allen or Jay and Muse are perfectly good but I no longer get excited about them for some reason. 30 seconds...however sounds like a good band name so I will check them out; I'm slightly worried by the presence of Jared Leto but I shall overlook it for now.

I will hunt down the songs mentioned and get back to you...
govinddhar
30 seconds were first introduced to me a couple of years ago. I was surprised at how good some of their bigger songs are. I have a new found respect for Leto and his vocal chords (bigger than when he became the ill-fated shitsu in American Psycho) as a result. Well worth a check out. Fantasy, Yesterday and some others I forget are notable singles. iTunes popularity check...

Also have to say that I am totally pleased that Chris Cornell has surfaced from his midlife crisis and regrown his testiclays by reforming Soundgarden. Yes Im doing the devil horn hand sign and headbanging as I type this, making typing somewhat difficult. Still, somewhere a rock deity has taken notice and is flatulating his approval in triplicate. RAH!

Has anyone noticed that when one of the 'I've been shot and killed' sond effects in Mod Warfare 2 sounds like James Hetfield being stabbed? Please tell me if you have.

Just picked up Nirvana's best of the box and have to say, listening to Smells Like Teen Spirit does not sound too different to our shed/big school and attic recordings - the sound I mean, not the actual content!
jonnyploy
Ah Soundgarden. As coincidence would have it, I was just playing Spoonman on Rock Band 2 earlier today. What an absolutely spiffing tune it is too.

On an entirely different note, Ska Cubano are playing at the Jazz Cafe on Thursday 8 April. Standing tickets are £19. Anyone interested?

(Oh and King, I'm with you on Biffy Clyro. Haven't listened to any of the others yet, but I will check them out. I also quite enjoyed Kasabian this year, much to my surprise as I had previously written them off as Oasis-mimicking numpties.)
govinddhar
Why havent you guys told me about Girl Talk before - this man is a MENTALIST! From biotech geek to one of the coolest DJs in the world! And completely randomly - he calls himself Spoonman from time to time. What are the odds?

Spoonman is evilly good as is Black Hole Sun! I heard incubus do a cover of it live.

And howsabout Muse's latest single sounding like those goth gods Depeche Mode? Yes!
jonnyploy
I could have sworn I'd mentioned Girl Talk before, but on searching it is obvious that I haven't. You're right - he's genius.
Sammyboy
JET

Insanely good and underrated.
Sammyboy
Went to see Massive Attack last week, they were ace, although their visual display was a bit distracting.

New album Heligoland also good, worth checking out
jonnyploy
Anyone going to Glastonbury this year?

Looks like I might be now courtesy of my brother who won two tickets in a Guitar Hero competition, so if anyone else is going to be there let me know and we can coordinate.
Matt Williams
QUOTE(jonnyploy @ 20-Feb-10, 15:53)
Anyone going to Glastonbury this year?
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I'm not going, but Michelle is.

Incidentally, Dan/Pete/Chris, can Michelle get an account? If you need an email address, please use mholmes78@yahoo.com.

Cheers,

Matt
DanSon
matt - done and emailed.
Matt Williams
QUOTE(DanSon @ 22-Feb-10, 3:44)
matt - done and emailed.
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Thanks!
Sammyboy
Third Eye Blind are playing a London gig but its sold out, gah! If they add another one Id be up for going. Takes me back to the days...
jonnyploy
Norah Jones is still lovely.
King
QUOTE(Sammyboy @ 28-Feb-10, 19:13)
Third Eye Blind are playing a London gig but its sold out, gah! If they add another one Id be up for going. Takes me back to the days...
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I didn't think they were still alive...I'd go along if I could too.

Oh well, I'll just have to continue to wait for A to gig some more for that authentic '99 feeling.
King
What a bunch of Cock-juggling thunder c**ts: BBC 6Music facing the axe

They must not be allowed to succeed.

Text from the report:

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Radio 6 Music presents a different challenge. Although small in audience, reaching around 700,000 listeners a week, it plays a wide range of music that listeners do not hear elsewhere and it introduces many listeners to music that is new to them. The BBC Trust’s recent review of Radio 6 Music confirmed that it is popular amongst its fan base and its music offering is distinctive. However, although it has achieved good growth in recent years, it has low reach and awareness and delivers relatively few unique listeners to BBC radio. And whilst 6 Music does not have a target demographic audience, its average listener age of 37 means that it competes head-on for a commercially valuable audience. Boosting its reach so that it achieved appropriate value for money would significantly increase its market impact. Given the strength of its popular music radio offering from Radio 1 and 2 and the opportunity to increase the distinctiveness of Radio 2, the BBC has concluded that the most effective and efficient way to deliver popular music on radio is to focus investment on these core networks.
King
Um...I didn't know I felt so strongly: This is what I'm sending to the BBC via this page. Just in case you're curious. Any comments welcome.

Closing BBC 6Music would be a mistake. It seems utterly bizarre that the Director-General's report heaps praise on the 'wide range of music that listeners do not hear elsewhere' and its 'distinctive' music offering, and admits that 'Boosting its reach so that it achieved appropriate value for money would significantly increase its market impact' and then calls for the station to be dissolved.

6Music fills an almost unique role in the current music scene: Actively searching for and promoting new and alternative music; not simply playing the latest pop pushed at them by record labels but listening to demos, going to gigs and paying attention to their listeners. Most importantly it is not popular. I know this may not seem like a benefit but it really is: if you want to promote excellence, originality and inspiration you have to give people what they don't know they need; pop music is fine, it's perfectly pleasant and very occasionally great; rarely does it surprise, innovate or lift the soul; when it does you can almost guarantee that the band or artist were (until very recently) not a pop band but were nurtured and given life in an environment such as the one provided by 6Music and, in the past, by John Peel and The Evening Session.

The conclusion '...that the most effective and efficient way to deliver popular music on radio is to focus investment on...core networks' I believe misses the point: the efficient delivery of pop music to the masses does not promote excellence or originality and nor will it aid in finding the next generation of British talent; leave this sort of thing to commercial radio and Radio 1; 6Music delivers on its promise admirably and has developed a base that deserves to be built upon, not broken up piecemeal and forcibly inserted into constricting slots that suffocate innovation with an insistence on target audience broadcasting.

Target demographics are in my opinion an utterly useless method of deciding programming - excellent content should and does reach across boundaries of age, class, race or any other arbitrary divisions one cares to submit. That 6Music doesn't have a target demographic is to be applauded - it is my belief that the fact they are not chasing a wholly fictitious, mythical listener allows them to concentrate of their central tenet of introducing and promoting new music. However, if the mythical listener that is currently being reached is averagely 37 and if this 37 year-old is such a valuable audience why would you alienate it to such an extent? Why, now that the BBC has provided a dedicated station for 'new and specialist music' would you force this 37 year-old person to search the airwaves for the odd nugget, buried among the standard, uninspired schedules?

6Music has provided an excellent service with its only fault being that it does not, and can not, reach a wider audience while the majority of radio listeners choose FM. It is my opinion that it should be allowed to grow as the place to nurture and promote, new, innovative and surprising music. The efficient delivery of popular music provides only for the present; the BBC needs stations like 6Music to provide for the future.
Loz
It should be noted that I seldom listen to 6 music, apart from picking up podcasts occasionally. It seems to me that the BBC has become focussed on providing 'value' for the license payers, due to it's need to be seen to be policing itself better than anyone else can, as a result of the phone-in scandals, the Gilligan affair and the Jonathan Ross incident. Sadly, the management has been encouraged to think that higher viewing figures means better value.

The BBC's decision making process should be based on wider set of standards.

govinddhar
Now for some craizee cross cultural type shit...

I give you - the Mahavishnu Orchestra

You know you know

If anyone of you has heard of these guys before - some mondo points for you. The lead man in this is a dude called John McLaughlin - a dude whose mind got taken over by India sometime on an acid trip in the 60s. He had his guitars custom-made to sound like a sitar and has since made some of the craizee-ist rock-Indian fusion shizzle you've laid on those ears man. If you like this look out for a group called Shakti. Dang!

Just look at what this man-girl-dude thing does on the violin man - jehoosifash!
jonnyploy
That was...interesting I guess.

If that represented a cross between traditional Indian music and drug-fuelled, psychedelic, pretentious, prog-rock bullshit then unfortunately it sounds as if the prog-rock was the dominant partner in the relationship. Shame.

It's all very nice to be technically proficient at playing a musical instrument, but if all you're going to do with that proficiency is show it off in a 'look at me, I can play the violin really fast' kind of way then I'm not interested. Or at least not unless you're playing this:


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govinddhar
Most impressive - would have been more enjoyable if the guy didnt look so smug! Im still with man-girl-dude thing. He looks cuddly.

Mahavishnu are more on the jazz improv side, but Shakti is some truly awesome Indian fusion fandangle.

Shakti in the day

Charlie Gillet would be proud of this thread...
jonnyploy
Agree totally - Vengerov's facial expressions whilst playing do make me want to punch him. His intonation isn't the best either.
King
Right: As part of the on-going campaign to Save 6 Music, this week people are attepting to get the Half Man Half Biscuit song Joy Division Oven Gloves into the charts (We're not expecting No. 1, No. 6 would be fine, thanks).

It's a great song, amusing and wierd as much of HMHB is so if you could find it within yourselves to follow one of the lnks on http://www.joydivisionovengloves.com and buy the track I'd appreiate it and you'll have yourself a King-approved track on your doPi.

Ta
King
One benefit to come from the BBC proposal to close down 6 Music (go here to let them know what a bad idea that would be) is that I have made a point of listening when I can. (Now that Beeb Player had been sorted out this means I can even listen at work on my phone.) This has had the added effect of making me buy more music so here are some quick reviews:

Ursa Major - Third Eye Blind

Not all of these purchases are due to 6: This is a decent 3EB album - they're still recognisably the same band but evidently haven't been treading water all these years. I don't think there's much here to win over doubters but fans (like me) will be happy and newcomers to the party should have a good time. 7/10

Year of the Black Rainbow - Coheed and Cambria

Again I would have bought this whatever the weather as I love C&C; this is the last of the Amory Wars series of 5 concept albums charting an epic sci-fi story encompassing worlds, galaxies, different realities and a possessed 10-speed bicycle and if that's not a reason to buy I'm not sure I want to know you. I'd describe the Coheed style as prog metal - there's so much going on in most of the songs that I'm soon lost in the syncopating drums, squirling guitars and heartfelt vocals. Frankly I love it but I'm not sure it's at all accessible - I managed to convince a CSkate prog fan to buy the album sight-unseen so we'll see what he makes of it. 9/10

Lungs - Florence and the Machine

Blimey she has some pipes. 8/10

Dirt - Kids in Glass Houses

This isn't bad but neither is it particularly great - brings to mind LostProphets leaning towards McFly (KIGH and McFLy are both produced by Jason Perry of 'A'). I guess you could say it's post punk pop without any surprises but with some decent swelling guitars and vocals - I'd like to see some rough edges myself but it's safe, Radio 1 rock. 5.5/10


I Speak Because I Can - Laura Marling

Ranging from gentle, soulful and sad to forceful and twangly, Laura Marling has a great voice put to good use in this folky, heartfelt album. She's obviously disgustingly talented as she wrote the whole thing herself and performs the majority with help from some friends (including Marcus Mumford). 8/10

jonnyploy
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Lungs - Florence and the Machine

Blimey she has some pipes. 8/10

Ugh. No, she doesn't.

I will allow the other reviews though.

Keep up the good work.
King
I was referring more to the fact that she's set permanently to 11 and belts out almost every song on the album than making any particular comment on the quality of her voice. Though given the 8 I gave the album it's safe to assume I like the voice. I take it it grates on your sensitive ear?

By the way has anyone heard good music in an unexpected venue? I recently heard Beth Orton being played in my Sainsburys and it made me disproportionately happy for being in the orange store of wonder. The next time they played 'Female of the Species' which also came as a surprise; I swear there's an assistant manager about our age amusing himself there somewhere...

That last sentence brought up images I'll not be able to erase (shudder).
TheWoz
Just confirming the fact that I disagree with everything king says:

Florence and her machine can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

I Hate Her & It
jonnyploy
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Though given the 8 I gave the album it's safe to assume I like the voice. I take it it grates on your sensitive ear?

Yes. I'm sure to many people her voice is quirky and different, but to me she is just singing with a really harsh tone and out of tune and hearing her makes me want to nail sharp things into my head. Her live performances are especially excruciating for me.
King
Hmm I have shown, in the past, a high tolerance for harsh, slightly discordant singing (see Young Heart Attack for a good example) so I guess this should be factored into my musical opinions from now on.

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Just confirming the fact that I disagree with everything [King] says:


Come on Woz; the Venn diagram of our musical tastes has a much larger middle section than for films (where the circles don't appear to even touch) - you must be able to enjoy the 3EB album at the very least.
TheWoz
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you must be able to enjoy the 3EB album at the very least


I'll give you 3EB, although I lost interest after Blue (the album, not the band...) I'll give it a downoad and see what happens.

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govinddhar
While Florence and her machine are truly grating, her cover of You've Got The Love is actually one of the better covers I've heard in a while. Not that you can go wrong with it, the original is still monster and a great giver of teeny club joy nostalgia from our first clubbing days. Well me at least...

Have just discvoered that the group behind that catchy Strange and BAutiful song is Aqualung. Guys I need help. What internet radio will save me?
King
Listen to BBC 6Music - it's the only way to fly.
King
Amanda Palmer is releasing an album of Radiohead covers performed on a ukulele...

http://hangout.altsounds.com/news/118950-a...ukulele-ep.html
govinddhar
Broken Bells look promising.
govinddhar
If you hate muzak - please comment here...

Mikey, Sam, Ween, Jonboy - expecting some quality abuse from you on this score...
Govi* Blogpost on muzak

All other abusers welcome...
jonnyploy
I can tolerate muzak because it is bad. That sounds counter-intuitive I know but stick with me.

Muzak is background music and is therefore generally played at a volume appropriate for keeping it in the background. If it is crap then I can successfully ignore it because it is at a volume that I can easily block out. On the other hand, good background music drives me insane because I want to listen to it. Good luck having a conversation with me in a location where they are playing good music at an infuriatingly low volume; I will be ignoring what you are saying and desperately trying to suck in all the aural goodness I can from the speakers.

For the same reason I am terrible at working with music on. If the music is good then I will be listening to it, not working. I honestly cannot understand people who can have a song on that they like and be doing something other than giving it their full attention.

Muzak will never bother me because my brain is wired to ignore it.
DanSon
John explains himself well, however:

"Establishments in Dubai allow their staff to make their own mixes. This in itself isn’t bad, but when people take some of the most haematoma-inducing ballads and record their friends singing a karaoke version of it in their living rooms..."

I'm guessing he wouldn't so easily phase out that kind of noise. Govi has my sympathy if they really do do that.

I do however rather like to watch "Pop Idol", or what is now known as Xfactor/American Idol (get with the times grandad).
jonnyploy
Agreed Dannyboy, that does sound mind-meltingly bad, at any volume.
King
Annoyingly, I was in Blacks the other day and someone was murdering the Doves song Black and White Town over the tannoy. That was quite distressing.

I must be wired differently to Jonny though - I've been excited in the past to hear Beth Orton being played in Sainsburys - I guess I'm happy filling in the gaps of my favourite songs in my head. The only time it gets irritatig is waiting on the phone....
Tart
Is it just me or does that new Lady Gaga song Alejandro sound like an Ace of Base cover??
King
Ah yes I see your problem: you're assuming I've heard the new Lady Gaga son Alejandro; I'm far too much of a music snob to have listened to that...

That's a long way of saying I'll have to get back to you on that.
King
Yes, yes it does.
jonnyploy
Favorite songs of 2010:

Wonderful Life - Hurts
Oh! The Divorces - Tracey Thorn
No Surprises - Regina Spektor
Alive - Goldfrapp
I Am Not A Robot - Marina And The Diamonds
I Need You Tonight - Professor Green and Ed Drewett (yes yes, I know, but it's catchy, so ner).
The Flood - Katie Melua
Slow - Rumer
Another Day - Pomplamoose
In Sleep - Lissie
Fuck You - Cee-Lo Green (obviously)


Best pre-2010 songs that I discovered/re-discovered/downloaded in 2010:

World Spins Madly On - The Weepies
Summercat - Billie Vision And The Dancers
Ooh Wee - Mark Ronson
Point / Counterpoint - Streetlight Manifesto
Backlash Blues - Nina Simone
Junker's Blues - Champion Jack Dupree
Young Adult Friction - The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart
The Bird And The Worm - The Used (used in the trailer for Clash Of The Titans)
What New York Used To Be - The Kills (in fact just The Kills in general)
Always See Your Face - Love
Fallen For You - Sheila Nicholls
Beijing - Melissa Ferrick
The Thanks I Get - Wilco (in fact just Wilco in general)
The Day I Tried To Live - Soundgarden
Uninvited - Alanis Morissette
Jim Dandy - LaVern Baker
Rockin' Pneumonia And The Boogie Woogie Flu - Huey "Piano" Smith
Mama She Don't Like You - Alborosie & I.Eye
Amy - Ryan Adams
Little Italy - Stephen Bishop
Guilty Pleasure - Cobra Starship
Que Sera Sera - Sly And The Family Stone
Sex, Love And Money - Mos Def (good use of hip-hop flute)
Sledgehammer - Maiysha
Lithium - Polyphonic Spree
Monkey Man - Amy Winehouse
govinddhar
QUOTE(Tart @ 21-Jul-10, 12:20)
Is it just me or does that new Lady Gaga song Alejandro sound like an Ace of Base cover??
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Jehoosifash! The last time I heard it I thought the exact same thing! RIP OFF!
King
I am in no way coherent enough to even remember what I have come across this year (except for the White Lies album (as if Joy Division were starting out right now) and the latest Coheed and Cambria). However; two bands I have favoured in the past are currently making new albums with the help of fans through Pledge Music. This is a website where you can pledge to give the band money in return for a download of the album (+ some other tasty treat if you pledge more than the min) and if they get enough pledges thy'll take your mney, make the album and possibly give some excess to charidee.

I've pledged to help Funeral for a Friend and The Subways make more music. I suggest checking it out and perhaps helping out even more obscure bands...hell, you could even contibute to a new Cast album.
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